Thundercat Talks Shit and I Have to Step Up and Break Him Down

Below I've posted Thundercat's original article about the Leykis/Jeffries debate supplemented with my commentswhere appropriate. This Thundercat guy is a real tool and I see him constantly displaying his lack of knowledge and experience in the seduction field on his blog. My comments are in bold italics.


Leykis Vs. Jeffries


No bigsurprise that MINE'99 likes to attack people who are better than him (which is pretty much just about everybody in the scene). And in one of his latest blog posts, he targets Tom Lykis, popular radio personality and "Hollywood Ladies Man."

Check out this rant Ross spewed...

Ross Jeffries writes:
Dear Speed Seduction(R) Student,

One of the questions I’m sometimes asked is, “What do you think of Tom Leykis and Leykis 101?”

For those of you who don’t know, Leykis has an enormously popular syndicated radio talk show(he’s on 97.1 FM here in Southern California) where he mostly preaches his misogynist doctrine on success with women, called Leykis 101.

While Leykis talks about the importance of having game, which is certainly important, it his definition of what game is that is troublesome and twisted.

Essentially Leykis believes that women are attracted mostly to men with money, and that women have sex not because they mostly enjoy it, but to latch on to a man and use him as a meal ticket. And he further believes that by treating women like trash, they will feel the need to validate themselves by sleeping with the men who treat them in this fashion.

For him, game is therefore about lying to women about your social-economic status to make yourself more appealing and treating women like doo doo.

What isn’t stated in all of this is what I actually find most troubling; that sex is basically about dumping your load on or into someone who visually excites you but emotionally repels you. It’s about stimulation and discharge and nothing more; a sort of very vivid and interactive jack-off.

Isn’t it interesting? His view of women and how they should be treated, matches up and reflects his experience of sex. If you hold people as contemptible then how could you view joining with them intimately as something other than contemptible at worst, or merely mechanical build up and release at best?

And beyond that, his ideas are inaccurate to be generous about it. The biggest inaccuracy that women don’t enjoy and crave sex for its own sake, and that pretending to be able to buy them is the best way to go about things.

Very sad for Tom and for those listeners he badly misleads. For those of us who know how to capture and lead womens’ imagination and emotions, we know how utterly unnecessary the contempt and the lying is, and how grateful women are to be lead to the kinds of wonderful feelings they deeply crave.

Dump the hate, Tom. And open up your mind.

Peace and piece,

RJ

P.S. If you are a Leykis listener I especially invite your comments.


Well, Ross, you're in luck, because I AM a Lykis listener, and I've got some comments...

>First of all - I love how MINE'99 berates Tom for hating women, when its obvious to anyone with a brain that Ross has more hate and bitterness towards women than any man since Ted Bundy.

How so? he treats the ones I've seen him with pretty well, and keeps names and situations much more annonymous on the net than most money grubbing PUA gurus do.

>(The only difference here is that women tended to LIKE Ted Bundy before he went all psycho killer on them.)

Just hurling insults with nothing to back them up? Another sign of insecurity. No wonder you can't simply ask a girl her number at a supermarket, even when you've got good rapport with her.

>Need I remind the world that Ross is the guy who proudly taught people how to regress a woman back to childhood and fuck with her sexual identity so you can have sex with them?

Where do you get this stuff? I certainly haven't ever seen anything like that in the 14 years I've been keeping up with SS.

Now, age regression is a great hypnotic technique that can change people's lives for the better, and technology has no morality. I've age regressed people for their benefit because they asked me to, or because we were having fun in that playful state that only kids usually get to experience. But it wasn't "fucking with a woman's mind to get laid."

I know it's hard for you to grasp because you seem to come from an extremely strict religious background. But there's nothing wrong with yoga, meditation, hypnosis, or whatever. It's just a really relaxing state, and Jesus don't mind if you relax your brain and enjoy yourself.


> How women are nothing but objects to be turned into "sex slaves" through hypnosis?

No, never heard that either. Maybe it's in the marketing of the old Penthouse magazines? Don't me stupid, dude, you at least grasp the basics of marketing and headlining, no?

>Anyone who was in the early days of SS knows how bitter Ross is towards women.

Last time I checked "bitter" was an emotion not a life-long disease, and I don't recall much bitterness in him anyways.
You, however, that's a different story.

> This is also a guy who joked about hypnotizing his brother's wife into giving him a blowjob.

Man you can really dig shit up out of some back alley, can't you?
Did he do actually do it or did he joke about it? If it's the latter, lighten up. If it's the fomer, what does this have to do with the fact that this Lykis guy is a joke, and that Ross was %100 right about him?


>To me, its obvious that Ross misses the boat when it comes to what Tom Lykis teaches. Tom's show is really about how men need to take power back from a feminist, anti-male, society.

Hmmm...do I catch a wiff of...bitterness?


> He sees how men are degraded and robbed of their power in this world, and his aim is to EDUCATE men on how to keep their power, especially with women.

Well I'm not robbed of my power, Thundercat. I'm glad the world is like you, hypnotized and on autopilot, because that gives me the easy power to WAKE PEOPLE UP and turn them on to things that your little mind couldn't possibly imagine.

I'm sorry that evolution has dealt you a raw deal, and that you aren't able to learn the higher forms of seduction that would make you THE MAN instead of a poser of the MAN, but so it goes.

>Let me tell you - if ANY GUY out there has a problem with supplication, it'll be cured by listening to Tom Lykis. Sure, sometimes he goes too far and can sound very bitter about women. But for the most part, he speaks the truth.

Yeah, if you can't make a girl feel like a playful kid again, make her whole world a sensual playground without even having touched her, and fuck her in
a way she's never known before and will never know again, I guess you have to pretend like you have money and fame and are a dick to get laid.


>Tom's philosophy can really be divided into two parts - one is the technique, which is all about "getting laid for less money." The other is the philosophy, which is about having self respect, retaining your power, and keeping society from cutting off your balls.

Why would I even think about those things? They are a given, and you guys seem really worried about losing them.

>His point is that women don't undertand a man's need for sex. For us, ejaculation is as necessary as going to the bathroom.

He fails to under stand that sex is just as necessary for them. But they rarely if ever get really good sex. Mostly cuz guys like you think of nothing but ejaculating.


>Tom's philosophy is that if women aren't pleasing their men, their men will look for it elsewhere because that physical need to ejaculate is so strong.

Or they watch porn. What's the point and how does it help us? We gonna make all the women listen to this guys radio show?

> Ross tries to paint it as though Tom has this shallow view of sex, when in reality, he's trying to educate women on men's physical urges.


No, Ross probably sees alot of flaws and damaging info in this bratty jocky's memes and recognizes the opportunitty to do some good marketing while helping to derail the snake oil medicine show. Is that really so bad?

I mean here you are, the epitome of RAFC, and your making money off of a seduction site. If I were all pent up like you, I might fault you for it.


>Tom has been married 6 times. To my knowledge, Ross has never been married.

LOL being married 6 times (which equals six failures) is better than never being married ( which equals 0 failures and 0 dependents) ?
Jeez you've never actually been in a long term relationship, have you Thundy?

>and Tom has banged hundreds of women. To my knowledge, I don't know of any women Ross has banged.

Yes, Ross is one of the only gentlemen left in the PUA scene, and doesn't seem to have to expose his women to gain bragging rights. Since you know that Ross is good with women, I guess now your rant has just become a kind of age regression, and your reaching for straws.

I'm glad you look up to someone who brags about how many women he's "banged" enough that you can count them.

> (That's not to say there aren't any, I just don't know of any) Tom gets hot girls, and Ross, well, doesn't. Tom is rich. Ross isn't.

Not gonna back those statements up, are you, my
country bumpkin?